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Nogales. It's just a place I pass through.


Published Friday, March 27, 2009 10:25 AM MDT

Concerned Visitor & Helper


 

 

 

 

I have been hearing stories from all directions on how Nogales can be a great border town. Unfortunately, it's not. Sure there are many citizens who try and make Nogales a better place to visit and live, but not everyone strives to do so. In writing this opinion I mean no disrespect to the citizens of Nogales (being from Nogales myself), but feel it's about time people start to speak up and voice their opinions.

 

 

I'm going to start off my examples with employees not knowing how to speak English. I think it's wonderful to be Hispanic (and bilingual- which I myself am) but we are in the United States and all employees should know how to at least speak the English language to help the out-of-town folks. Next is the issue of management in many companies. What is up with management not making sure stores/restaurants/offices are clean (definitely including bathrooms), having favortism, allowing stealing to occur, etc.? All of these little things show bigger corporations and out-of-town mom n' pop shops that Nogales would not be a good place to expand. Think about it, more companies coming in equals more job opportunities for Nogales. You have officials saying to shop local, buy in Nogales...from where? Along the border there is a strip of stores that frankly sell the same thing, and are messy (to put nicely). There are maybe two stores I would buy from (for clothes). So what happens, everyone travels out of town to shop. I personally think that strip should be made up of bigger companies (coffee shops, cafe's, maybe a spa, etc.). Seriously, can you tell the difference when you cross from Mexico back into the U.S. in the stores (with the exception of a couple of stores)?

 

 

Next is the issue of the cleanliness, or lack there of, in Nogales. Question: where is the money going? The streets of Nogales, wait a minute, what streets? The sidewalks? Street signs with no road names? But I see city and county getting fabulous new gadgets of all shapes and sizes. What about a law for homeowners to keep their front yards clean? Meaning, no weeds as tall as their windows, no disabled vehicles parked in the front yard... My question is why haven't these been addressed, and the consequences followed through? How about Nogales 'going Green'? Those who can and are fortunate, I believe, should donate a tree, a plant, or flowers for Nogales. Donate trash cans, help recycle, save energy... It doesn't have to cost a town money to get things better. For instance, why don't those on probation be required to clean Nogales? And I'm not talking about cleaning close to the probation offices so it's easier for the officers to keep track of them. Oh, and sadly when I pass by one of the fire stations it seems as though they never do yard work! How about planting a couple of trees and that station being weed-free? It's embarrassing... Again, where's the money for Nogales going? Where's the lottery money going? Shouldn't it be used for street improvements, and not new gadgets for the cops How about the police men/women try to use real bicycles, or walk the streets as big city cops do?

 

 

Also, support the activities trying to be held in Nogales. Support the children in letting them play in community sport programs. But, respect the gyms and fields being used for those activities. Teach our children how to respect the community and property of Nogales, while having fun at the same time.

 

 

Nogales can be such a cute and inviting town, but it's not. "Old ways" and not liking change has gone on long enough. Citizens also need to start taking responsibility and helping out more. So many people say, "Oh yeah, Nogales is a town I passed through". Never have I heard someone say they love Nogales, AZ and can't wait to go back. I think many need to stop thinking of old ways and stop saying "that's how it's always been", and end the stigma of "it's who you know in Nogales". I think Nogales should have new traditions started, enforce new rules/laws/regulations, to make Nogales a better place to visit, and live. How many people do you think would like to see more trees, parks, clean neighborhoods, sidewalks to use, clean stores and restaurants to spend money in? I know I would. But I'm just one person trying to make a difference and open up some eye and ears. Maybe this will get some attention and be of help for future changes.
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Comments

    Daniel W. wrote on Apr 15, 2009 7:03 PM:

    " This isn't a real editorial, it's a post that anyone can make, I think. Can we make it so that they are marked as such? "

    El Justiciero wrote on Apr 13, 2009 11:01 PM:

    " @Scoops

    A bit pedantic of you to challenge my word use, don't you think? Especially given that my grammar and structure is more than adequate for the forum. I grant that I considered using "commentator" instead of "commenter", but the former seemed to connote a person who comments regularly or for profit. (It also conveys one who comments with some level of competence, which is altogether inappropriate here.) I went with the latter alternative because it could be interpreted along the narrower lines of "one who comments on a comment board", which was my intended meaning. Furthermore, the word "commenter" (with variant endings -or and -our) has been in use since the 14th century and is recognized by the Oxford English Dictionary.

    How's that for pedantry? Why don't you leave the correction pencil to those who can properly wield it. "

    El Scoops wrote on Apr 12, 2009 2:03 AM:

    " A "Commenter?" Who learned you how to write, Justiciero? And b, Yes that's Nogales, and even though you've gone, you're still here in spirit!
    Why? Because there's no better place on earth than NOGI. What rich history, beautiful weather, scenic panoramas. It's God's Country! "

    El Justiciero wrote on Apr 11, 2009 7:05 PM:

    " Since when are people allowed to publish unsigned letters?

    Who does this guy think he is? A commenter?

    That NI professionalism for you. "

    Accentuate the Positive wrote on Apr 9, 2009 4:22 PM:

    " As a former resident of Nogales, it saddens me to read the negative content about the town both in the editorial and in the comments posted. Like many other students who were raised in Nogales I hit the ground running the day I graduated from high school, but I would not trade anything for my childhood in a border town. Nogalians have the opportunity to live in a bicultural environment where the best of the American and Mexican culture are at one’s disposal. At times the language barrier can be frustrating, but it is simply part of the culture that exists in Nogales. In actuality, the language barrier really isn’t that big of a deal; visit Miami where you are expected to speak Spanish, or San Francisco, New York, Los Angeles, etc. where you never know how the person behind the counter is going to greet you. Nogales is truly a unique place with a great community of people; it just has to be appreciated in a unique way. What is embarrassing is the poor quality of this editorial and the majority of the comments posted; so much for defending the education system in Nogales. "

    Teacher wrote on Apr 7, 2009 6:37 PM:

    " Let's explore another aspect of bilingualism, or lack there of. As an educator for over 12 years, I still, to this day, get this excuse from some parents: "Pues yo no le puedo ayudar a mi hijo porque no se ingles. No le entiendo a la tarea." Come on, if a parent who has a child who is an English language learner does not make an effort to learn English to help his or her son/daughter, what can we expect from establishments that hire only Spanish-speaking employees??? Here are the facts: People in this community are LAZY!! Yes, LAZY! They do not want to find the means to better themselves, in this case learn the language. Learn so that you can help your child that may be struggling in school. Learn the language so that you can create more opportunities for yourself in the job market. Some of these people probably loose out on jobs because they cannot speak English, oh but then again, this is NOGALES. I am bilingual but when I go to a drive-thru restaurant and am asked, "Buenas tardes, le pudeo ayudar?" I am going to answer in the language of this country, whether I am in a border town community or not. "

    John Doe wrote on Apr 6, 2009 9:53 PM:

    " I have to agree with some of this concerned and helpful visitor guy's comments, however, if you visit any other border town you will find there are the exact same conditions as Nogales, sometimes even worse. I lived in Nogales until I was 18 and have lived out of state for a few years. I have visited border towns such as El Paso, Laredo and McAllen and the shops near the border are found everywhere, as David W said, there is a market for these things. Unfortunately, the mexican culture invades all of these border towns and I must admit, us mexicans lack certain discipline and civil culture. This is a fact. "

    Esteban Dabdoub Hernandez wrote on Apr 6, 2009 11:17 AM:

    " I agree with Concerned Visitor and helper, I came to the USA legally at the age of 8 (1958) and spoke,read and wrote english fluently since my mother made sure I learned the language of my future adopted country before becoming a Resident Allien, the history of the USA I learned at school, I was drafted into the US Army where I received an Honorable Discharge. I'm a Naturaluized American Citizen and love and respect this wonderful country of ours and the most beautiful flag. We harm the people from Latin American countries that reside in the USA by going bi-lingual, it causes these immigrants to not learn to speak, read and write english. "

    Cheated wrote on Apr 3, 2009 8:45 AM:

    " It is tragic to think this is the situation in Nogales and to think that they are getting all the Rio Rico tax money and still have nothing to show for it. What can be expected for Rio Rico? And we wonder why the kids get into trouble when there are no kid friendly places to go to in Rio Rico. Where is our public rec center or swimming pool? I have never dreaded paying my taxes more than ever as I see that someone must be pocketing the $$ and giving the community the short end of the stick! Que verguenza!! "

    Ron Sanders wrote on Apr 1, 2009 9:12 PM:

    " I have never been to Nogales and therefore cannot comment on Nogales from an eyeball point of view. While back I heard the mayors of both cities of Nogales crying about the lack of tourist dollars. I have come up with an excellent idea to draw tourists the the area. All you have to do is stomp on the ground real hard and all those Mexican drug tunnels will collapse, thereby creating another Grand Canyon tourist attraction. "

    college student wrote on Apr 1, 2009 1:14 AM:

    " I have different point of views on this issue. For one, its true that Nogales does need a "fixer-upper" and there are various ways of helping. Putting the person who wrote this on the spot and having them take action is not helping. It only creates conflict. We have to understand whether we like it or not that there is alot of ignorance in this border town. I believe that the core issue would be the City of Nogales and city manager Jaime Fontes and a couple of people from the council. When is it going to be time to stop being selfish and do whats right for other people and the community? How about for the teenagers in this town? I strongly recommend to put something on the agenda for the next meeting on how to make this crumbling town better. It would be nice to have the Mayor write a blog here on these issues to see if he will take action or at least come up with a plan to help this community. . . or maybe we just need a new city manager? "

    Wilma wrote on Mar 31, 2009 4:55 PM:

    " Nogales use to be called "La Frontera Blanca"! So, I was told by my Mother. Unfortunately, some places of Nogales, has had a dramatic transformation: like down town. Almost every city or town that I visited has a historical down town. And all those so called stores have robbed us of what Nogales once was! Change always comes, but some things need to remain, to remind us of who and where we come from.
    I am grateful for our new renovation, like
    some new parks in town, but we forget that we still have old parks that need some TLC. One in particular is "Madison Park"( in front of the Memorial Park), broken benches,dry grass, no playground. "

    Rio Rico Resident wrote on Mar 31, 2009 1:37 PM:

    " I have to concur with the author.

    I have been to numerous stories (Walmart, Kmart, JC Pennies, Safeway, Big Lots, Jack in the Box, etc) where it has been difficult if not impossible to find someone who speaks English.

    Customer service in Nogales may be high from a Mexican point of view, as I have been told by friends and neighbors who are long time residents, but from a US expected norm, it is way below average.

    Driving and walking in the downtown area, the place just feels grubby, regardless of how clean it may or may not be. "

    Daniel W. wrote on Mar 31, 2009 1:19 PM:

    " Thanks for preaching to us uneducated Mexicans!!

    I love it when people go live in big exotic cities like Tucson and come back to tell us how much we suck because we have never been north of Rio Rico. (Why would we? then we'd have to learn English and,plus, we can get welfare benefits in Nogales, how Great is that?!!?!?!)

    Seriously though, as for the cheap clothes downtown, there is a market for it. We have faithful shoppers from across the line who regularly come over and buy the clothes they can afford. It's not cheap or crappy to them and it helps our local economy. It's supply and demand and doesn't cater to people such as yourself who probably shop at fancy name brand places, like Wal-mart. "

    John Wansor wrote on Mar 30, 2009 11:31 PM:

    " I believe if this opinated person had taken the time to divert from grand avenue they may hav seen that Nogales has a lot of new renervation, new apartments, warehouses ect. As for the Mexican influence and speaking spanish I guess the idot shops at walmart and likes Chinese junk, thus the worth of the person giving the opinion.
    john Wansor "

    Hugo wrote on Mar 30, 2009 4:57 PM:

    " Thanks El Scoops for providing your insight. I have a question though, do you think the rumors are true that Coppola uses names like "El Justiciero" and "Coscorrones" to comment anonymously on these blogs? Perhaps he is just as gutless as you or I. "

    HER wrote on Mar 30, 2009 11:03 AM:

    " I think that the city, or whoever makes changes for the city itself should go down to Tijuana, or better yet to San Isidro get an idea of what we should have for shopping and make it better. The writers opinion unfortunately describes Nogales to the bone, but just because this is "Nogales", doesn't necesarilly means that has to stay the same old and mediocre Nogales. Lets make a change for the better. "

    El Scoops wrote on Mar 29, 2009 10:34 PM:

    " Hugo,
    You are just as anonymous as this blogger. Hello!!
    At least Coppola signs his name to his "dribble" and you know where you can find him.
    The NI never publishes anonymous letters or opinions in the print version. Those are relegated to on-line comments for gutless blowhards like you and me. "

    Hugo wrote on Mar 28, 2009 9:28 AM:

    " I love how this person wrote in and stated he/she was a concerned citizen but failed to give his/her name in the article. If he/she wants to change Nogales then he/she should lead the way. Lead by example, sending an anonymous letter to the International does nothing. Why would the International publish such dribble? Oh wait a minute, they publish Coppola's useless opinion regularly too. "

    bcastro wrote on Mar 28, 2009 7:22 AM:

    " That's Nogales! "

    show me wrote on Mar 27, 2009 11:53 AM:

    " please list the activities which you personally participate in to help eleviate these problems you mention. Then maybe you can inspire us with your actions rather than "crap" on the situation. "Thunder is good, thunder is impressive; but it is the lightning that does the work." - Mark Twain "

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