ArchivesThe Arizona State House Transportation Committee’s decision to spend $1.5 million in federal stimulus money to change the metric signs on Interstate 19 is misdirected. Many of us are accustomed to the current signage and see no need to change them now. The signs have been there for 30 years.
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Government expenditures, infrastructure improvements for the residents and businesses bordering Interstate 19 are much closer to the mandate of federal stimulus funds.
Karen Rogers
Rio Rico
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NE Resident wrote on May 8, 2009 10:21 PM:
I have taken my case to the governent, wrote letters, attend meetings, raise funds for the Baca Float Coalition. Yes, I have gotten involved, as you so wisely suggested. Unfortunately, the apathy here in Rio Rico is astounding. No one seems to care enough to get involved in anything.
The Baca Float Coalition is trying to change that attitude. It is a grass roots organization formed by residents, at the suggestion of county government, to move the bridge forward and reopen Santa Gertrudis Lane. Gee, George & wawa you could join and help out your neighbors. Then all us pests up here could stop whining and bothering you about the crossings.
If there are no crossings in NE RR, and we all have to come down Pendleton, how are 'you' going to get out? After all, there would be thousands of cars, busses, trucks all trying to get out over Rio Rico Drive. I am so pleased that you two were so smart and wonderful about where you located your homes.
Once again, please listen this time, I knew what was going on down here in Santa Cruz County regarding the crossings. However, I did not expect my vested property rights to be walked all over or agreements to be ignored!
Where has the county been from the start? They were the ones that allowed GAC to walk away from its obligations by giving them their bond money back, allowing developments where ingress and egress were not stipulated, and allowing these practices to contiue to today. Every time you turn around the county finds yet another excuse to bow out and not follow through.
What can you do to make things better for Rio Rico? Except whine about your neighbors to the north. "
wawaweewa wrote on May 6, 2009 4:26 PM:
George brings up an interesting point that no one was forced to live in any certain area. I, for one, chose to live where I had quick access to the Interstate for business and other reasons, so, I live near Peck Canyon. Now, I did not "DO" anything to "ANYONE" other than express my opinion based on what was previously written. And, if a family member or acquaintance of mine was looking to move into that area,
I would caution them about the cons of living there. Should they proceed and throw caution into the wind, my hands would be washed of the situation.
NE Resident: Compassion, I believe, has been helping pull out countless vehicles
that have become stuck in the makeshift Palo Parado crossing, which I have done.
Compassion is also, in my opinion, my telling you that you made a bad choice of where you purchased a home and that you took stake in what a "salesperson" told you and I empathize with you. It is clearly not a good situation.
If your rights have been violated, seek the services of an attorney.
Whenever I am in a dilemma, I typically resolve it myself with the use of
known effective resources. I do not take it to the newspaper and expect a
magic lantern solution. And now I know I cannot count on YOU (you wrote so, and you included your neighbors, whether they know it or not)
However, neither I nor the people that responded to your comment in this unrelated
newspaper article can resolve any of this.
I'm sorry, particularly for the Bleeding Hearts Society of Rio Rico or the World,
if my statements seem cold or emotionless. This is just not where you should be expending your energy if you want to resolve this problem. You are suggesting that they should not resign the Interstate and instead build a bridge, I do not agree with that and could find someway that your statements offend me, if I had the time.
I have to wonder where the other 13,999 people you write about are at with this.
Maybe you should tap into RR Resident as a resource, he seems to have some previously undisclosed information.
And, if I am taxed for the bridge which you will enjoy and use for your benefit, so be it.
It's the American way. Heck, you probably helped pay for the ones I use today.
I am hopeful that you will find a venue that can resolve your dilemma, as I doubt that this
one will do anything but expose your weak side. "
George Wilgers wrote on May 5, 2009 9:41 AM:
There was supposed to be a bridge at Palo Parado, but it was the Gulf American Corporations (the people who created Rio Rico in the first place) that were supposed to build it. They went bankrupt after being sued up the wazoo because of land fraud practices related, in part, to Rio Rico. The County supposedly got conned into accepting the roads in Rio Rico with an understanding that GAC would still build the infrastructure. This was so the County would release GAC from the Assurity Bonds that were in place to assure the infrastructure was constructed. Unfortunately, just like many people in the 60's and 70's, the County got hoodwinked by GAC.
My problem is that I have been listening to people whinning, crying and pitching a fit over the crossing, and hearing very little in the way of people trying to find ways to get the bridge done. The idea of a tax district for those who benefit has been floated, but tends to get shoot down. The idea of a toll road was floated, but the public was not in favor. Given that the County gets all of its money for roads from the Highway User Revenue Funds, and that is limited to under three million dollars to take care of more than what 800 miles of road, most of which were not constructed to any standard, just where is the money for a bridge to come from?
It would be nice if the people who would truly benefit, especially the builders and developers who still own a large percentage of the land in northern Rio Rico would pay for it, but they won't. Heck, it seems that the one that agreed to help get the upgrade at Palo Parado may have backed out of the agreement.
If a bridge is needed so badly, then why are so few in the area willing to actually participate in getting the bridge built? My observations at the public meetings has been that many want to complain, few want to help or participate. "
RR Resident wrote on May 3, 2009 8:04 PM:
Actually if you knew the "whole" story, Palo Parado is being considered as a rural connector by the AZDOT.
Second, if the county gets away with funding the bridge through a special district, that will become the precedence for funding all future public projects. Do you want to pay extra, beyond your property taxes, for a project that is used by the public?
My tax money just help pay for the work completed down by Rio Rico Dr. I am never going to use it, but I had to pay for it!
We are all in this together, wether we like it or not! "
NE Resident wrote on May 3, 2009 7:37 PM:
I am shocked that there is so little compassion for each other in Rio Rico and sad for George and wawa. If anything were to chase me out of Rio Rico it would be the people and their lack of compassion for others.
We have a bona fide easement in our deeds to cross at both Palo Parado and Santa Gertrudis Lane. Yet individuals & the county have been allowed to infringe on my property rights. My rights are being ignored. Before you cast stones you really should learn the whole story.
I wish I knew what area of Rio Rico you all lived. The next time your area of Rio Rico needs help don't count on those of us that live up Pendleton, after all we are full of horse feathers!
Oh, by the way, if a special improvement district targets only certain residents and pays for the bridge, then everyone who is not a part of that district won't be using that bridge. Right! "
Irene Moreno wrote on May 3, 2009 5:31 PM:
wawaweewa wrote on May 1, 2009 4:06 PM:
And it's not "all residents of Rio Rico" that "need, have begged, and demand" a bridge. I live in Rio Rico and could care less if a bridge was ever built. If you think you are in danger (health, etc) where you live...then sell you remotely located house and move into a nursing home. Jeez!
And exaggerating doesn't help either, thousands affected....horse feathers! "
George Wilgers wrote on May 1, 2009 11:33 AM:
George Wilgers wrote on May 1, 2009 11:32 AM:
No one forced anyone to buy land and houses so far up Pendleton Drive. That was a choice of the property owner. If you were told by your real estate agent a bridge was to be built, you were lied to. Take the matter up with them.
Until then, stop the belly aching and if you really want to see a bridge built try finding ways to get the funding. Best may be an improvement district so the people who benefit from the bridge will pay for it. "